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Title: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 23, 2016, 05:35:43 PM

This is the thread for all discussion of offseason activities during the 2103-2104 offseason, including our transition to OOTP 17.  This first post will be updated throughout the offseason and will also include links to other threads or amendment votes that come up during this time.

Sim through 3/31/2104 complete, next sim is Monday 5/23. NEXT SIM GOES THROUGH START OF REGULAR SEASON, PLEASE PREPARE YOUR ROSTERS.

PLEASE UPDATE YOUR OOTP 17 TO THE NEWEST PATCH: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-17-general-discussions/266391-ootp-17-update-5-version-17-7-53-available.html

We are currently recruiting new owners.  I have 3 new owners at this time that have joined, so thank you and welcome to those guys.  Feel free to send the info to anyone you feel may be interested.  The recruitment thread on the OOTP forums is here:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-17-online-leagues/265872-world-baseball-association-openings.html

OOTP 17 transition news:

LEAGUE IS NOW TRANSITIONED TO OOTP 17

Please go to this thread and follow the instructions:

http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/forum/index.php?topic=4.0

Once you have it loaded in OOTP 17 please export your team file to verify you're good to go.  I will monitor the export tracker to see when everyone has it.

OOTP 17 successful exports:

Black Forest Foxes
Buenos Aires Dolphins
London Monarchs
Los Angeles Stars
Mexico City Aztecs
Milwaukee Brewers
Mumbai Cobras
New York City Empires
Paris Fleur-de-Lis
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars
Santo Domingo Palmchats
Scottish Claymores
Seoul Crushers
Tampa Bay Tocobagas

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 24, 2016, 08:28:08 PM

The process of importing into OOTP 17 is underway right now.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 24, 2016, 08:45:26 PM

Well the import was completed and I've already had a crash.  I'm going to see if there are more issues before uploading the files.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 25, 2016, 05:40:26 AM

OOTP 17 successful exports:

List now being maintained in the first post of the thread

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: sealbh20 on April 25, 2016, 08:31:43 AM

Huck My internet is down at home.I am not sure when the file download will be complete.I will keep you posted.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: claphamsa on April 25, 2016, 04:49:03 PM

huck, my budget is down...can you fix it?

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: sealbh20 on April 25, 2016, 04:55:54 PM

Well the good news is my internet is back up and running at home.I had too call tech support too fix the problem.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 25, 2016, 05:40:30 PM

Quote from: claphamsa on April 25, 2016, 04:49:03 PM

huck, my budget is down...can you fix it?

I show the correct values of $57,802,348 and negative $1,614,472 cash.  Unless you're just kidding.  Either way, you are hemorrhaging money good sir.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: sealbh20 on April 25, 2016, 05:53:11 PM

I am showing a gz file folder and not a league ootp 17 lg file

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 25, 2016, 06:22:39 PM

Yes sir, that is the right thing.  You need to download 7zip, a free program that helps with those files.

http://www.7-zip.org/

Once that's installed you will be able to unpack the archive files to see the .lg folder and install from there.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Echo127 on April 25, 2016, 07:36:42 PM

Quote from: sealbh20 on April 25, 2016, 05:53:11 PM

I am showing a gz file folder and not a league ootp 17 lg file

I had to 'unzip' it twice.  First it was a .tar, then a .gz, then a .lg.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 25, 2016, 07:44:17 PM

That's correct, you have to unzip it twice.  The .tar.gz file format is exactly what OOTP uses to compress files as much as possible.  It's just that with the normal league file download the game itself takes care of unzipping it.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: claphamsa on April 25, 2016, 09:59:33 PM

Quote from: Huckleberry on April 25, 2016, 05:40:30 PM

Quote from: claphamsa on April 25, 2016, 04:49:03 PM

huck, my budget is down...can you fix it?

I show the correct values of $57,802,348 and negative $1,614,472 cash.  Unless you're just kidding.  Either way, you are hemorrhaging money good sir.

you could give me an awesomeness payment of 20M to tide me over....

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: sealbh20 on April 26, 2016, 05:32:01 AM

Is it possible too post each step down in this thread too unzip everything.I am still having problems.I never usded 7 zip program before now.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 26, 2016, 05:44:24 AM

Team name changes / moves:

Moscow Lancers have moved to Edinburgh, Scotland and are the Scottish Claymores

(http://i.imgur.com/5XIIcNV.png)

Sao Paulo Anacaondas renamed to Sao Paulo Toucans

(http://i.imgur.com/E8YwERa.png)

Mombasa Mets have moved to Stuttgart, Germany and are the Black Forest Foxes

(http://i.imgur.com/YRxAJga.png)

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Echo127 on April 26, 2016, 07:18:28 AM

Quote from: sealbh20 on April 26, 2016, 05:32:01 AM

Is it possible too post each step down in this thread too unzip everything.I am still having problems.I never usded 7 zip program before now.

Right-click the .gz file, click "7-zip", click "extract here".  Then do the exact same thing with the resulting .tar file.  You're probably just over thinking it.  And I'm pretty sure that 7-zip will show up in the right-click menu as soon as it's installed.

Edit: you might be able to unzip the file with whatever default unzipping program that your compy comes with. I've just always used 7-zip because it's nice and clean and doesn't ask you to upgrade.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 26, 2016, 08:40:43 AM

Didn't even see his post. Thanks Echo. I'll post screenshots of the process later today.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 26, 2016, 10:54:08 AM

So this is all after you've installed 7-zip.

Locate the .tar.gz folder and select this option:

(http://i.imgur.com/9BZSXPy.png)

Then do essentially the same thing to the .tar file that you now have as shown below:

(http://i.imgur.com/qB9grPO.png)

You'll now have a regular folder titled World Baseball Association.lg, place that entire folder in your OOTP 17 saved_games directory.  If you installed normally on a Windows machine you will therefore put it in your folder with this name:

C:\Users\username\Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 17\saved_games

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 26, 2016, 10:54:44 AM

Oops, the images are a bit too big.  Just right click on them and open them in a new tab to see the full descriptions.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Nigel_Claymores on April 28, 2016, 01:00:36 PM

How are we going? Any sort of timetable for starting?

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 28, 2016, 10:36:01 PM

Yes sir, first offseason sim is tomorrow night at 9 central ( out thereabouts).

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Coop on April 29, 2016, 05:28:12 AM

I haven't been involved in an online league before.  What exactly is an offseason sim?  Also, can you provide a rough outline of what steps will be taken between now and Opening Day?  I assume those steps will go something like this.  Step 1, get as many new owners as possible.  Step 2, ownerless teams will become computer-controlled drones.  Step 3 is the draft of rookie players.  Step 4, free agency.  Step 5, set rosters.  Step 6, play ball!  Oh, and one last thing.  Is there a hard salary cap, and if so, what is the number?

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 29, 2016, 06:11:43 AM

Here's a rough guideline, keeping in mind that if any sims have to be skipped then things will push but I try to do that as infrequently as possible and also that offseason sims are every day:

Sim #	Sim Date	Game Dates	What you should do	Activities in-game
1	Fri. 4/29	Sun. 10/28 - Sun. 11/4	Offer extensions to players, Vote for awards in OOTP Utilities	Draft pool announced (11/2), Players consider extension offers
3	Sat. 4/30	Sun. 11/4 - Mon. 11/12	Offer extensions to players, Vote for awards in OOTP Utilities	Players consider extensions, Awards announced, Free agents file (11/12)
4	Sun. 5/1	Mon. 11/12 - Mon. 11/19	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
5	Mon. 5/2	Mon. 11/19 - Mon. 11/26	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
6	Tues. 5/3	Mon. 11/26 - Mon. 12/3	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
7	Wed. 5/4	Mon. 12/3 - Mon. 12/10	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
8	Thur. 5/5	Mon. 12/10 - Mon. 12/17	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
9	Sun. 5/8	Mon. 12/17 - Mon. 12/24	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
10	Mon. 5/9	Mon. 12/24 - Mon. 12/31	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
11	Tues. 5/10	Mon. 12/31 - Mon. 1/7	Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
12	Wed. 5/11	Mon. 1/7 - Mon. 1/14	DRAFT BEGINS IN OOTP UTILITIES, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
13	Thur. 5/12	Mon. 1/14 - Mon. 1/21	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
14	Fri. 5/13	Mon. 1/21 - Mon. 1/28	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
15	Sat. 5/14	Mon. 1/28 - Mon. 2/4	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
16	Sun. 5/15	Mon. 2/4 - Mon. 2/11	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
17	Mon. 5/16	Mon. 2/11 - Mon. 2/18	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
18	Tues. 5/17	Mon. 2/18 - Mon. 2/25	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	Free agents consider offers
19	Wed. 5/18	Mon. 2/25 - Mon. 3/3	Draft in OOTP Utilities until complete, Make free agent offers	FIRST-YEAR PLAYER DRAFT IMPORTED IN-GAME, Free agents consider offers
20	Thur. 5/19	Mon. 3/3 - Mon. 3/10	SET LINEUPS FOR SPRING TRAINING, Make free agent offers	Spring Training Sim, Free agents consider offers
21	Fri. 5/20	Mon. 3/10 - Mon. 3/17	Make free agent offers	Spring Training Sim, Free agents consider offers
22	Sat. 5/21	Mon. 3/17 - Mon. 3/24	Make free agent offers	Spring Training Sim, Free agents consider offers
23	Sun. 5/22	Mon. 3/24 - Mon. 3/31	Make free agent offers	Final Spring Training Sim, Free agents consider offers
24	Mon. 5/23	Mon. 3/31 - Mon. 4/7	ORGANIZE YOUR ROSTERS/LINEUPS/STAFFS FOR THE REGULAR SEASON	FIRST REGULAR SEASON SIM

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on April 29, 2016, 12:18:24 PM

Got 17, looks like i'm up and running - Mexico City ready to roll....

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 29, 2016, 08:47:18 PM

I called an audible (apologies for mixing my sports) and stopped this sim on Sunday 11/4.  This way you have one more day to vote on awards and I will include them in tomorrow's sim.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Nigel_Claymores on April 30, 2016, 06:58:23 AM

downloaded new file in-game and it's totally screwed. Click on a player link and you get a random player profile when it opens? Anybody else having this trouble? Downloaded it this morning (Sat 9am your time) so it shouldn't be anything to do with downloading early

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on April 30, 2016, 08:20:15 AM

Same problem here...

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on April 30, 2016, 09:43:46 AM

This is definitely related to the 4/29 sim export, i redownloaded the league from scratch, everything looked good until I downloaded the latest league file in game.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 30, 2016, 10:17:24 AM

Well crap.  Lemme take a look around.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 30, 2016, 10:19:44 AM

Okay, somebody attempt to Download Latest League File again.  Let me know if it tells you there's no new one.  In that case I will have to sim a single day.

Of course also let me know if we get lucky and it works and everything is fixed.  I'm hoping that's the case because I did the same thing I did here to fix it:

http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/forum/index.php?topic=50.msg349#msg349

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: claphamsa on April 30, 2016, 11:22:56 AM

worked for me.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Nigel_Claymores on April 30, 2016, 04:52:59 PM

Works for me! Thanks  :)

By the way there's a new patch out

(from the ootp boards)

Quote

Info for online league commishes: This update changes the file format because of added data. Previous builds will not load league files saved with 17.7.51! So, make sure every user in your online league has updated until you update the league to the new version. However, team exports done with 17.7.51 will work in previous versions, so online league users may update without issues even if the commish has not updated yet.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on April 30, 2016, 05:05:34 PM

Quote from: Nigel_Claymores on April 30, 2016, 04:52:59 PM

Works for me! Thanks  :)

By the way there's a new patch out

(from the ootp boards)

Quote

Info for online league commishes: This update changes the file format because of added data. Previous builds will not load league files saved with 17.7.51! So, make sure every user in your online league has updated until you update the league to the new version. However, team exports done with 17.7.51 will work in previous versions, so online league users may update without issues even if the commish has not updated yet.

Thanks for the info.  Everyone please update your installation to the newest patch.  I will update in one week (Saturday 5/7) in order to give everyone else time to update.  Based on the explanation Markus gave that means that you can update at any time and I will be able to import your team export files.  But if you don't update by next Saturday then you will no longer be able to load the league file.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on April 30, 2016, 06:59:11 PM

Looking good here now.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 01, 2016, 02:53:24 PM

I created another thread for some contract violation situations.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 04, 2016, 05:22:47 AM

Quote from: Huckleberry on April 30, 2016, 05:05:34 PM

Thanks for the info.  Everyone please update your installation to the newest patch.  I will update in one week (Saturday 5/7) in order to give everyone else time to update.  Based on the explanation Markus gave that means that you can update at any time and I will be able to import your team export files.  But if you don't update by next Saturday then you will no longer be able to load the league file.

New patch now available: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-17-general-discussions/266391-ootp-17-update-5-version-17-7-53-available.html

Links in the headline and first post updated.  This patch corrects some issues introduced in the last one.  I will be updating to this new patch on Saturday, but it looks like it should be compatible with the one released last weekend so if you already updated to that one then you should be okay.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 04, 2016, 08:35:44 AM

Saw that Darchiev (http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/reports/news/html/players/player_1879.html) signed an extension with Mumbai.  Max length (5 years) at $8M per year.  Probably a good deal for both sides, he's the best hitter in the World Baseball Association but has trouble staying healthy.  The best overall player, too, in my opinion although some might prefer a plus defender in the middle infield like Ralph Martin (http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/reports/news/html/players/player_345.html).

But now Mumbai locked Darchiev up for roughly half of Martin's contract.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: claphamsa on May 04, 2016, 07:26:01 PM

interesting comparison, one cant run, one cant hit lefties....but a 15M contract?  with budgets in this league its like paying Bryce Harper 55M a year, just insane!

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: APMP on May 04, 2016, 10:18:17 PM

Darchiev gave me a fantastic hometown discount.  Pretty awesome deal, need to do right by him and win a title now.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Coop on May 05, 2016, 05:59:01 AM

My 26-year-old 2B/3B, Hashimoto, also wants $15 million a year.  Granted, he's terrific (hit 42 homers last year), and he's just coming into his prime, but $15 million a year?  What do you guys think about that?  I'm not sure I can afford to keep him.  If anybody wants to talk trade, I'll listen.  He has one more year at $200,000 before he's eligible for free agency.  I'd consider good young talent and/or draft picks for him.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 05, 2016, 07:27:20 AM

15 is too high, imo.  I calculate what the dollar value of each WAR should be in my leagues to estimate reasonable salaries.  To be worth $15M in the WBA a player would have to produce over 10.5 WAR in a season.  So only Darchiev is actually in that ballpark if you trust the OOTP-generated WAR numbers.  Obviously that's just a starting point and you have to look at team needs, etc. in order to make a determination for your situation.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: CLK on May 05, 2016, 01:46:26 PM

still don't have the new game yet. looking at sometime next week hopefully.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 05, 2016, 09:45:16 PM

Okay, thanks for the update...if I don't hear from owners or get an export within the next week or so I will be moving them to AI control.  So updating me keeps that from happening.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on May 06, 2016, 12:16:50 PM

Huck, on that topic I've noticed that a lot of the "top" free agents don't seem to have offers - I imagine others, like me, are balancing budget issues, but there seem to be 3 teams in each league not participating, which is probably suppressing demand.  Seems like shifting the non-participating teams to AI sooner rather than later may help balance this out...some of the non-participants are sitting on low payrolls.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 06, 2016, 01:55:09 PM

That's a fair point.  I have emailed the inactive owners to ask for their status and notify them that I'll be moving them to AI control if I don't hear back.  I may do it before tomorrow's sim but won't do it before tonight.  I figure they should have at least 24 hours to respond.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 11, 2016, 06:05:53 AM

Sao Paulo and Tokyo were moved to AI control.  Singapore responded and says he's still in but he's been traveling.

So current AI controlled teams are Buenos Aires, Karachi, Lagos, Sao Paulo, and Tokyo.

We have a new owner for London and one that has emailed and stated he's interested in Buenos Aires.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Claybor on May 11, 2016, 09:00:08 AM

<---- New London GM. Hi all, I am looking forward to getting started and competing against you all.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Coop on May 11, 2016, 09:03:00 AM

Hi!  I'm going to send you a trade proposal this evening.  That ought to get you off to a fast start!

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on May 14, 2016, 11:27:22 AM

Hey Huck,

I just noticed one of my players is on my 40 man and under major league contract even though he's never been on the ML roster - I may have missed this one last offseason when the AI bumped some of our players around.  Is the amnesty program over or can i get a reset on his contract? Player is Armando Lopez, currently Mexico City AAA.  thanks!

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 15, 2016, 08:50:45 AM

Quote from: squaredrive on May 14, 2016, 11:27:22 AM

Hey Huck,

I just noticed one of my players is on my 40 man and under major league contract even though he's never been on the ML roster - I may have missed this one last offseason when the AI bumped some of our players around.  Is the amnesty program over or can i get a reset on his contract? Player is Armando Lopez, currently Mexico City AAA.  thanks!

Looking at his history he was clearly part of that SNAFU thanks to OOTP in April of the 2103 season.  I will reset his contract and service time after importing team files tonight.  At least I hope to remember to do so.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: squaredrive on May 15, 2016, 10:44:15 AM

Thanks huck!  I'll remind you if you forget ;)

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 15, 2016, 08:14:52 PM

I remembered, so it should be good.

Also rumors that the Twin Cities franchise may be relocating.  Clearly a cash grab considering their current negative balance. Ha.

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Huckleberry on May 16, 2016, 12:25:16 PM

The Twin Cities Millers franchise has officially relocated and been renamed.  They are now the Tampa Bay Tocobagas:

(http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/reports/news/html/images/team_logos/tampa_bay_tocobagas_110.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KDQPMaA.png)

Title: Re: 2103-2104 Offseason Thread
Post by: Coop on May 16, 2016, 07:17:50 PM

Nice logo and jersey.