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Title: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 03, 2017, 09:58:07 PM
Here are the updated WBA Times predicted standings for the 2110 season. Please note that these predictions include all trades posted as of this post.

Americas Baseball League

NORTH AMERICAN DIVISION
TeamWLPCTGB
Northwest Emeralds98580.628-
Mexico City Aztecs77790.49421
Los Angeles Stars75810.48123
Carolina Flight62940.39736
Ottawa Whiskey Jacks59970.37839

LATIN AMERICAN DIVISION
TeamWLPCTGB
Sao Paulo Toucans102540.654-
Buenos Aires Dolphins93630.5969
Rio de Janeiro Jaguars83730.53219
Puerto Rico Coqui71850.45531
Santo Domingo Palmchats60960.38542

Intercontinental Baseball League

AFRO-EUROPEAN DIVISION
TeamWLPCTGB
Black Forest Foxes98580.628-
Barcelona Bulls90660.5778
Rome Generals88680.56410
London Monarchs88680.56410
Paris Fleur-de-Lis351210.22463

ASIAN DIVISION
TeamWLPCTGB
Mumbai Cobras99570.635-
Melbourne Meteors81750.51918
Karachi Falcons79770.50620
Seoul Brothers73830.46826
Singapore Merlions491070.31450
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Bob_Meteors on October 04, 2017, 06:19:15 AM
Uh... something's not right here. I know Mumbai improved but I'm only put at 6 games above .500? And there's no way Rome comes third in their division.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 07:12:50 AM
The numbers are what they are, my man. Although as always remember that things like injuries are not taken into account. So, for example, Andy Stone is predicted to start every turn in the rotation despite his "wrecked" injury status.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
A new feature here at the WBA Times, our overall WBA preseason power rankings. These rankings report the expected record of each team in the WBA if the schedule were changed to a round robin between all the teams in both leagues. That requires a non-integer number of games between each team, but fortunately math doesn't care about reality sometimes. Let the debate begin!

WBA PRESEASON POWER RANKINGS
#TeamWLPCTGB
1. Sao Paulo Toucans101550.647-
2. Black Forest Foxes97590.6224
3. Mumbai Cobras96600.6155
4. Northwest Emeralds94620.6037
5. Buenos Aires Dolphins93630.5968
6. Barcelona Bulls91650.58310
7. Rome Generals89670.57112
7. London Monarchs89670.57112
9. Rio de Janeiro Jaguars84720.53817
10. Melbourne Meteors80760.51321
11. Karachi Falcons78780.50023
12. Mexico City Aztecs75810.48126
13. Los Angeles Stars73830.46828
13. Puerto Rico Coqui73830.46828
13. Seoul Brothers73830.46828
16. Santo Domingo Palmchats63930.40438
17. Carolina Flight62940.39739
18. Ottawa Whiskey Jacks59970.37842
19. Singapore Merlions511050.32750
20. Paris Fleur-de-Lis391170.25062
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Bob_Meteors on October 04, 2017, 07:45:57 AM
AHH HOW AM I 10th ARE YOU KIDDING!!

Santo Domingo is the worst team.
Rome is in the top 5.
BF isn't as good as Mumbai.
BAD RATINGS
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: squaredrive on October 04, 2017, 07:59:45 AM
Bob i think the words you are looking for are "FAKE NEWS.... sad"

I'm hoping my young talent develops and MC can find a winning record - particularly looking forward to seeing how this season plays out. This gives me a baseline challenge anyway. SP is loaded so no surprises there.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 08:19:43 AM
There are basically 5 levels in the WBA this season.

Championship contenders - Top 8 with 3 heavier favorites

Dark horses - the next 4

Stuck in the middle - the next 3

Rebuilding scrubs - the next 4

Paris
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Txhorns on October 04, 2017, 08:21:16 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about this.  I was predicted as slightly above .500 last season and won 97 games.  Now I'm predicted to be 9 games worse than last season yet I have added Rainha, Kemboi, Seixas and Boone this offseason.  I don't think any team in the Afro-European Division wins more than 95 games this year.  I think the division winner will be at 93 or 94 wins with the other 3 good teams being at 90-92 wins.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: CaseyBlakeDeWitt on October 04, 2017, 08:40:08 AM
Woooo, good numbers
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Coop on October 04, 2017, 09:41:14 AM
Tell you what, let's not bother playing the season.  It takes so much time.  Let's just use these numbers.  I'll see you in the Championship Series, São Paulo!
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: APMP on October 04, 2017, 10:10:51 AM
Love the "WBA Power Rankings" feature Huck.  This league keeps getting better and better.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: APMP on October 04, 2017, 10:12:20 AM
Uh... something's not right here. I know Mumbai improved but I'm only put at 6 games above .500? And there's no way Rome comes third in their division.

Man I would be THRILLED if I clinched a playoff spot with a month left in the season because you were 18 games behind.  Would need to line up my starting rotation and give old man Karpat a breather before October baseball commenced.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Bob_Meteors on October 04, 2017, 10:13:14 AM
Haha yeah. I have fingers crossed that Stone and Karpat both get hurt... no way I can win the IBL otherwise.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Txhorns on October 04, 2017, 10:15:32 AM
Haha yeah. I have fingers crossed that Stone and Karpat both get hurt... no way I can win the IBL otherwise.

I don't know that there is anyway you are winning the IBL regardless of what happens.  I think you might be 6th best in the IBL at this point.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: APMP on October 04, 2017, 10:23:02 AM
Haha yeah. I have fingers crossed that Stone and Karpat both get hurt... no way I can win the IBL otherwise.

My top two pitchers, Karpat and Jose Ramirez, are both coming off torn meniscus surgery.  The Mumbai season may rest primarily on

1. The quality of the pitching mounds around the IBL

2. My pitchers realizing that with my lineup being as good as it is, the best thing for them to do at the plate (give us a damn DH Huck!) is stop trying to bunt for hits, run the bases aggressively, etc.

3. Just call the cops if you see a mugging, don't try to be a damn hero.

4. Hire a freaking handyman, genius.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
DH sucks. Not real baseball.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: CaseyBlakeDeWitt on October 04, 2017, 10:58:21 AM
Psh. Why even bother with the series. Just give me the trophy now.

Tell you what, let's not bother playing the season.  It takes so much time.  Let's just use these numbers.  I'll see you in the Championship Series, São Paulo!
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: CaseyBlakeDeWitt on October 04, 2017, 10:59:51 AM
I know this isn't the point of the thread (and no DH isn't that big of a deal), but I don't understand why sending a pitcher to the plate and instructing him to keep the bat on his shoulders is real baseball while allowing an extra slugger to take his hacks isn't.

DH sucks. Not real baseball.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Bob_Meteors on October 04, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
I don't know that there is anyway you are winning the IBL regardless of what happens.  I think you might be 6th best in the IBL at this point.
Not sure about that. I think I'm better than Barca and London, probably BF too (maybe?) Well, that's why we play the games I guess. Nobody would have guessed BF would win it last year, we'll have to see.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 11:39:47 AM
I know this isn't the point of the thread (and no DH isn't that big of a deal), but I don't understand why sending a pitcher to the plate and instructing him to keep the bat on his shoulders is real baseball while allowing an extra slugger to take his hacks isn't.

If you wanna hit, then play the field. That's the design of the game. The fact that people figured out over time that one position on the field could be far more valuable for their defensive contribution than their offensive doesn't mean that position shouldn't have to hit.

Why only one DH? Do you not realize how much better leaguewide defense and offense could be if baseball just went ahead and allowed full platoon substitutions? Either do it or don't do it, making an exception for one guy out of nine is just silly.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: APMP on October 04, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
If you wanna hit, then play the field. That's the design of the game. The fact that people figured out over time that one position on the field could be far more valuable for their defensive contribution than their offensive doesn't mean that position shouldn't have to hit.

Why only one DH? Do you not realize how much better leaguewide defense and offense could be if baseball just went ahead and allowed full platoon substitutions? Either do it or don't do it, making an exception for one guy out of nine is just silly.
I generally agree and I'm still annoyed the Astros got forced into the AL.

That being said, I'm not insistent on the if you want to hit play the field for pitchers. I'd be fine with a batting order of only eight, with the pitcher being removed rather than replaced.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: CaseyBlakeDeWitt on October 04, 2017, 12:56:47 PM
If you wanna hit, then play the field. That's the design of the game. The fact that people figured out over time that one position on the field could be far more valuable for their defensive contribution than their offensive doesn't mean that position shouldn't have to hit.

Why only one DH? Do you not realize how much better leaguewide defense and offense could be if baseball just went ahead and allowed full platoon substitutions? Either do it or don't do it, making an exception for one guy out of nine is just silly.


I’m not sure “if you want to hit then play the field” is really the design of the game, but regardless, I don’t think the initial design is necessarily relevant anymore. Back in the day they didn’t use batting helmets or let people of color play either. Times change and so does the game.

And to be completely honest, your proposed design of “let the best people play what they’re best at at all times” kind of sounds like a hell of a lot of fun. Baseball is a game. I watch because it’s fun. Watching Clayton Kershaw bat .100 and bunt in half of his plate appearances isn’t fun, especially when I could be watching an extra plate appearance from Austin Barnes or Logan Forsythe or whoever.

I get that you feel there’s some sort of integrity to the game that you lose by allowing a DH, but more legitimate plate appearances and less opportunities for pitchers to get injured only sounds like a plus to me. Now, obviously we can’t really see that fun in a simulation, so in the case of OOTP and the WBA it hardly matters to me, but as far as the MLB goes, I’m a full supporter of league-wide DH.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Echo127 on October 04, 2017, 03:31:30 PM
Lol at the Afro European division. Paris is so screwed.

Also, screw the DH.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 04:45:36 PM

I’m not sure “if you want to hit then play the field” is really the design of the game, but regardless, I don’t think the initial design is necessarily relevant anymore. Back in the day they didn’t use batting helmets or let people of color play either. Times change and so does the game.

And to be completely honest, your proposed design of “let the best people play what they’re best at at all times” kind of sounds like a hell of a lot of fun. Baseball is a game. I watch because it’s fun. Watching Clayton Kershaw bat .100 and bunt in half of his plate appearances isn’t fun, especially when I could be watching an extra plate appearance from Austin Barnes or Logan Forsythe or whoever.

I get that you feel there’s some sort of integrity to the game that you lose by allowing a DH, but more legitimate plate appearances and less opportunities for pitchers to get injured only sounds like a plus to me. Now, obviously we can’t really see that fun in a simulation, so in the case of OOTP and the WBA it hardly matters to me, but as far as the MLB goes, I’m a full supporter of league-wide DH.
No, I'm serious about full platoon. If you're going to do it then DO IT. Imagine Andrelton Simmons being a slightly above average fielder. Imagine never having to watch a defensive specialist catcher hit. Why do I want to watch Nelson Cruz try to make a catch to win the World Series when I can watch a defensive stud do it instead? You actually agree with me. If original design isn't going to be honored so that it can be more fun for fans then don't half-ass it.

And yes, I'd watch full platoon baseball. At least that league would be honest about what it's trying to do.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
Forgot to add that I would love a full platoon option in OOTP, as well. Think about resource allocation if those were the rules.

This guy recently signed by Mumbai would have been a bidding war. As it is I let him go once Mumbai beat my offer.

Carlos Rodríguez
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: claphamsa on October 04, 2017, 05:25:12 PM
Paris will win the division!!!!!!! Hashimoto for life!
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: APMP on October 04, 2017, 06:03:14 PM
Forgot to add that I would love a full platoon option in OOTP, as well. Think about resource allocation if those were the rules.

This guy recently signed by Mumbai would have been a bidding war. As it is I let him go once Mumbai beat my offer.

Carlos Rodríguez
Lol so THAT'S why I got bid up on him...
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Echo127 on October 04, 2017, 06:23:13 PM
I was bidding on him purely to use as a defensive sub during 40-man expansion.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Huckleberry on October 04, 2017, 06:51:40 PM
I was bidding on him purely to use as a defensive sub during 40-man expansion.

Don't see you online in Slack. Your export has an issue (it sends a direct message automatically).
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Echo127 on October 04, 2017, 08:11:27 PM
Don't see you online in Slack. Your export has an issue (it sends a direct message automatically).
Slack gave me the message, too. I think I fixed it in time.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Bob_Meteors on October 05, 2017, 05:26:43 AM
I'm a little late but
1. The DH sucks and always will.
2. We got super off track so I will say I win my division, Paris wins Afroeuro, SD wins LA, and Ottawa wins NA. Those are Bob's PredictionsTM.
Title: Re: Updated 2110 Predicted Standings
Post by: Claybor on October 05, 2017, 06:54:06 AM
The DH sucks in real life, agreed 100%.

OOTP has never handled pitcher hitting and pinch hitting very well in the past, so I have always been in favor of the DH in online leagues. That being said, these issues came up numerous versions ago and I don't even remember what they were specifically. I have seen no issues in our league though, so perhaps they actually made some progress in that area.

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