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Huckleberry
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2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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on:
June 28, 2017, 08:13:18 PM »
In anticipation of the current amendment vote passing, I have frozen the salaries table here:
http://www.worldbaseballassociation.com/WBA%20Arbitration%20Salaries%202108-09.html
This is the thread where teams should announce their releases based on this. Theoretically this may not even be necessary as you
should
be able to simply release the players in game with no penalty once the offseason begins (after the WBA Championship Series). But just in case on this first go-round you may want to state the players here in case the game tells us that there will be a financial penalty for releasing them.
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claphamsa
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #1 on:
June 28, 2017, 09:37:40 PM »
no playoffs teams should cut now...no? how long will playoffs run? (going to Ar kansas on sat for a week)
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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June 29, 2017, 07:14:24 AM »
Playoffs will probably finish next Thursday, that's usually how long they take. I would post here anyone you want to release.
However, once the playoffs end on Thursday the next sim won't be until Sunday, so you may have time. I am not sure how this works but I'm not planning on releasing my arbitration victims until the offseason starts. I always sim to the first day of the offseason after the WBA Championship Series is over.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #3 on:
June 29, 2017, 08:21:03 AM »
Some facts on this year's arbitration salaries, some important and other that just interest me.
Highest Arbitrated Salary -
Chris Boone
- $5,035,880
Lowest Arbitrated Salary -
Olaf Knoll
- $203,430
Average Team Impact - $9,874,587
Highest Team Impact -
Rio de Janeiro
- $13,781,236
Lowest Team Impact -
Rome
- $1,436,505
Current team payroll total in the WBA is $828,640,505
If no arbitrated players are released (not gonna happen), the total would be $1,026,132,247
Keep in mind that the long term average goal for the WBA is $1B (based on an average payroll of $50M for 20 teams).
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Bob_Meteors
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #4 on:
June 29, 2017, 08:22:39 AM »
Huck I'm leaving for ten days in a few hours, no internet. Will I still be able to do releases once I get back?
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #5 on:
June 29, 2017, 09:05:57 AM »
That's gonna be tight. I would imagine we will have our first offseason sim on Sunday 7/9. However, free agents don't officially file until a couple of sims into the offseason so you should probably have time if you export by Monday 7/10. I will be applying the arbitration salaries to non-released players in the table prior to running the sim where free agents declare, so everyone should have a couple of sims to release them.
Given that the rules state you can release these players with no penalty, I can give you cash to offset expenses if they're applied.
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Bob_Meteors
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #6 on:
June 29, 2017, 10:57:40 AM »
Ok sounds good, thanks!
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AndyHustle
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #7 on:
July 02, 2017, 08:52:38 PM »
I'd like to release Sixto Valdez.
Thanks Huck
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bellrizzy
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #8 on:
July 03, 2017, 12:20:40 AM »
I'd like to release Jose Espinosa.
Thanks.
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Coop
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #9 on:
July 03, 2017, 06:25:33 AM »
I'd like to release Tariq bin Zuhair.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #10 on:
July 03, 2017, 06:49:12 AM »
I will be releasing
Dave Mendoza
and
Román López
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #11 on:
July 03, 2017, 08:25:32 AM »
Quote from: AndyHustle on July 02, 2017, 08:52:38 PM
I'd like to release Sixto Valdez.
Thanks Huck
You signed
Alfred Reeves
and
Michael Smith
to extensions this season. They are both arbitration eligible. However, the extensions were both illegal based on annual salary increases. You can either cancel their extensions and subject them to arbitration or I can rebalance their extensions. Let me know.
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Claybor
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #12 on:
July 03, 2017, 08:56:34 AM »
Hmmm. For some reason I just did not follow 'major league service time' correctly as it has seldom if ever come up for me in my many years of playing ootp. I was looking at number of ML season, so obviously my figures were a bit higher as 2 or 3 of my players are on a lower arby tier then I calculated. I am pretty annoyed with myself for missing an obvious detail like that, and while my reluctance would have still been there, it may have be lessened considerably. I still the think smaller steps of take two are better, but I do owe an apology to all for vehemently arguing a partially broken point.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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July 03, 2017, 08:58:10 AM »
I see, still not a problem though. In all honesty it's probably a good thing that we are starting with a less severe system. Big changes like this will always have some unforeseen hiccups and issues. It's possible that someday we increase these arbitration numbers but at least now we can get a few seasons in and see how the league responds.
Heck, I've already discovered something that
could
have been a big issue but fortunately isn't. My code wasn't ignoring players who had signed an extension. Fortunately only two players from one team are arbitration eligible but had already signed an extension. That could have been a pretty big headache.
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rbeadle3
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #14 on:
July 03, 2017, 06:46:03 PM »
I would like to release Samant Tasneem, Robert Milley, and Luzvimindo Cereza
Thanks Huck.
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CaseyBlakeDeWitt
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #15 on:
July 04, 2017, 12:25:57 AM »
Are players who aren't on the 40-Man eligible for arbitration? I was working under the assumption that they wouldn't be since that's how it is in the MLB. In the WBA Arbitration Salaries Table, I've got a pair of players listed though who were in AAA all year and were never on the big league team (Bakir bin Malik and Fyodor Rislyakov).
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #16 on:
July 04, 2017, 09:24:13 AM »
I believe our intent should be that, yes, they are eligible. We don't have a Rule 5 Draft, so it's a mechanism where teams have to decide who to "protect" in their organization. As with everything else, though, it's open to discussion.
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squaredrive
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #17 on:
July 04, 2017, 08:54:51 PM »
Huck, please release Valles and Cervantes from mexico city. Thnaks!
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APMP
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #18 on:
July 04, 2017, 09:41:22 PM »
Mumbai is releasing You-de Liu, Olaf Knoll, and Abdul Salam Salarzai.
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Echo127
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #19 on:
July 06, 2017, 07:51:01 AM »
Rio is cutting loose almost everyone:
Darrell Watson
Carlos Nunez
Timao Argolo
Alberto Anacoreta
Leinart Angerhausen
Dave Chaulk
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #20 on:
July 06, 2017, 08:00:57 AM »
So far 23 players representing $32.1M in arbitrated salary have been released. That's almost a full team of major league caliber (not star caliber, of course, these players will be bench caliber) players who will be added to the free agent pool. That aspect of this new rule looks like it should help.
And we still haven't heard from over half the WBA on potential releases.
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Txhorns
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #21 on:
July 06, 2017, 12:39:07 PM »
Rome will hold on to all players while licking its wounds from the end of year collapse.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #22 on:
July 09, 2017, 06:53:53 AM »
As discussed on another thread, a coding error has been found this morning (with Coop's help).
My code was looking only at the "salary1" field to see if a player had a salary for the following year. However, players who are on multi-year contracts and are in a year after the first of that contract may have a value there but not a salary for the actual following year. I am correcting that now.
Because the final salary arbitration table was published above,
changes based on this correction will not be enforced except by owner request for this offseason
. There may be a small number of players for whom owners will want this change applied in order to be able to release the player. For example,
Chi-seong Kim
would be subject to an auto-renewal of his contract if it weren't for our arbitration rules. Because of the rules, though, he will receive an arbitrated salary and can then be released at no penalty.
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claphamsa
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #23 on:
July 09, 2017, 10:02:09 AM »
please release kung and asawad
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Coop
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #24 on:
July 09, 2017, 11:17:45 AM »
Please release Tariq bin Zuhair and Chi-seong Kim.
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Bob_Meteors
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #25 on:
July 10, 2017, 07:09:56 AM »
Please release Balanatha Venkatadri and Nafwal Abdul-Nasser. We don't have to release them in game right?
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #26 on:
July 10, 2017, 07:16:46 AM »
That's correct. I'll be handling all of that.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #27 on:
July 11, 2017, 09:41:39 AM »
Just a heads up, I will actually be assigning arbitration salaries manually this evening instead of the automated way I had planned. I forgot about this issue:
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/showthread.php?t=267073
See third post by cuervo72. This actually happened in the WBA once upon a time when I tried to fix cities of birth with an import/export. From what I can tell it was corrected at some point by the software, probably when I imported from OOTP17 to OOTP18, but I don't want to risk causing the issue to pop up again.
I'm posting this just so everyone understand why tonight's sim takes so long.
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Claybor
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #28 on:
July 11, 2017, 11:20:19 AM »
Your efforts are much appreciated.
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Huckleberry
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Re: 2108-09 Arbitration Thread
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Reply #29 on:
July 11, 2017, 09:27:16 PM »
Okay, it's all done. Post any manual entry errors you find here.
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